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Thread: Turbo vs. kompressor!

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    Default Turbo vs. kompressor!

    Sto je po vama, bolje?



    Turbo je: "dobijes pare bez ulaganja" (to je recimo sema Vlade CG) a kompressor je: "ulazes da bi zaradio".
    Last edited by Fabia_Elegance!; 29-07-09 at 16:06.
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    supercharger !
    Quote Originally Posted by my name is ...
    izvini oli mi rec kako da neciji post stavim u signature ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fabia_Elegance! View Post
    Sto je po vama, bolje?



    Turbo je: "dobijes pare bez ulaganja" (to je recimo sema Vlade CG) a kompressor je: "ulazes da bi zaradio".
    Jeste, mada i kod klasicnih turbo punjaca ulazes, izduvni gasovi pokrecu lopatice turbine, sto znaci da motor ima neki otpor prilikom izduvavanja, za sta priznaj opet treba uloziti neku snagu. Ali opet ta snaga sa ne moze uporediti sa 30% "bacene" snage kod konvencionalnih superchargera.
    Tu je i problem uljnog zaptivanja kod turba, jer on radi na 150 000 obrtaja itd... Bas me zanima ima li tog auta koji je presao 100 000 km a da mu turbina ne pusta ni malo ulja na lezajevima???

    U svakom slucaju, ipak glasam za TURBO
    Last edited by George_Clooney; 29-07-09 at 16:35.

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    Kao prvo, taj otpor je manji od otpora koji stvara katalizator.
    Turbina ne radi na 15 000, ona radi na 60, 70, pa i 250 000 rpm.

    A da, sto se ulja tice, svakoj je intercooler pun, pa i usisna grana.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fabia_Elegance! View Post
    Kao prvo, taj otpor je manji od otpora koji stvara katalizator.
    Turbina ne radi na 15 000, ona radi na 60, 70, pa i 250 000 rpm.

    A da, sto se ulja tice, svakoj je intercooler pun, pa i usisna grana.
    Ispravio sam, zabrojah se u ovolike nule

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    Dobro, a niko ne pominje kako ravnomjerno vuche kompresor i kako je bolji na vecim temperaturama vazduha?

    Stvarno je fino kad osjetis turbo rupu, a?

    Najbolje uzet cist benzinski motor bez turba i ostalih dogradnji :joint: ili fino uzmes turbodizel.
    'Atomik, o-o, atomik, ou tunajt'

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    i bog je TURBO!
    If you no longer go for a gap that exists, you're no longer a racing driver.

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    nijesam vozio kompresor....
    jesam gurao kroz garazu
    Ljudi nemojte da jedete zuti snijeg!

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    Kompressor je generalno mnogo bolje rjesenje, ali je veliki problem bio proizvesti snagu koja se izgubi + dosta preko toga kako bi bilo opravdano ugradjivanje.

    Audi B5 S4 biturbo ima 2,7L i 265ks, shto je ~ 100ks/L.

    Audi B8 S4 sa kompresorima ima 3,0L i 333ks, sjto je 111ks/L.

    B5 S4 Stage 2 ima 315ks, shto je ~ 19% vishe snage.

    B8 S4 Stage 2 ce imati oko 500ks, shto je 50% vishe snage.

    Pojasnjenje: Stage 2 kod audija podrazumijeva zamjenu grane auspuha, filtera vazduha i ECU-a (chipovanje)

    Ne samo shto fabrichki ima mnogo vishe snage po litru, vec je mnogo zahvalniji za tjuniranje. Najjednostavniji tjuning daje mu nevjerovatnih 500ks. Ovo mi govori da je vrijeme izvlachenja malo snage iz kompresora proshlost. Josh se cheka RS4 i RS5 koji ce biti nevjerovatne zvijeri za tjuniranje ako oba budu na bazi 3,0 TFSI motora...

    Chini mi se da vishe ne postoji ni jedna prednost turbo punjacha nad kompresorom. Josh "samo" ostaje da se vidi kako ce se ponashati ovaj motor i koliko ce trajati kompresori.
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    Mogu li ja na moj motor od astre g cupe bertone staviti turbinu . motor je 2.2 , bili mi koji majstor sto se bavi tuningom dje u cg odraditi to
    " Nepismen ali pun para . Jesam li ovo dobro napisao ? "

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    Mozes da stavis ali to je opasno za motor. Turbo motori imaju kovane klipove i dodatno hladjenje istih, jace ventile, jace kosuljice...
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    Kompresor je bolje rijesenje od turba ali selektivno prednabijanje je najbolja stvar, ali i skuplja za odrzavanje!
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    Evo vishe detalja o audijevim kompresorima u novom S4. Objasnio je audijev inzhinjer shto su sve promijenili i kako su uspjeli da dobiju tako snazhan motor sa kompresorima.

    BEFORE SEX u help each other get naked. AFTER SEX u only dress yourself. Noone helps u once ur fcked

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    Kompresor nekad ima tako odvratno zvizdanje.
    She is only here to annoy herself!

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    Aj lajk det, Jagg S Type R i Mustang Roush imaju mrak zvuk!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fabia_Elegance! View Post
    Mozes da stavis ali to je opasno za motor. Turbo motori imaju kovane klipove i dodatno hladjenje istih, jace ventile, jace kosuljice...

    zar ne mogu da se promjeni klipovi , stavi jace hladjenje kao kod opela g cupe turbo , i te ostale stvari da se naprave ? ko bi mogao da mi odradi to ?
    " Nepismen ali pun para . Jesam li ovo dobro napisao ? "

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    Profesionalno? Niko.
    Najlakse ti je da stavis kompletan motor, a najbolje ti je da ga ostavis na miru.
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    treba posle motora trap i kocnice i jos dosta...
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    kocnice ionako planiram vece da stavim , mjenjac ne treba isti je kao na turba , za trap neznam :/ ee kad bi imao ko to da mi odradi
    " Nepismen ali pun para . Jesam li ovo dobro napisao ? "

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    Quote Originally Posted by []-DJ_Sm!nkA-[] View Post
    kocnice ionako planiram vece da stavim , mjenjac ne treba isti je kao na turba , za trap neznam :/ ee kad bi imao ko to da mi odradi
    Kako znas da je isti kao na turba?

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    citao sam na internet nedje , da turbo ima samo malo tvrdje amortizere i vece kocnice , a ja oboje planiram da uradim
    " Nepismen ali pun para . Jesam li ovo dobro napisao ? "

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    Nemoguce turbo mora imat drugaciji prenos.
    She is only here to annoy herself!

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    zivota mi i ja sam se zacudio ne mogu sada da nadjem site . ili oni lazu . . .
    " Nepismen ali pun para . Jesam li ovo dobro napisao ? "

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    Turbo ili kompressor?Rjesenje je vw 1.4 twincharger.Najbolje od turba i najbolje od kompresora u jednom motoru.

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