Lista pouzdanosti...

[hAlleLuJa]

Ovih danam završeno je jedno od najvećih svetskih istraživanja o pouzdanosti automobila, u organizaciji auto-osiguravajućih kuća na čelu sa “Warranty Direct” osiguranjem. U ovom projektu učestvovalo je ukupno 33 proizvođača sa čak 450.000 vozila. Došlo se do veoma intersantnih podataka po kojima su mesto najpouzdanijih autombila zauzeli japanski modeli, kao što su Mazda, Honda, Toyota i Mitsubishi. Recimo, čak 92% Mazda vozila starosti 3-9 godina, nisu nikada imali mehanički kvar, tako da je na svakih 100 Mazda-vozila samo 8 imaju kvar.
Ovo istraživanje je donelo i razočarenje za neke legendarne auto-brendove kao što su Land Rover i Jeep, koji imaju oko 45% kvarova.

28.1.2007

1. Mazda 8,04
2. Honda 8,90
3. Toyota 15,78
4. Mitsubishi 17,04
5. Kia 17,39
6. Subaru 18,46
7. Nissan 18,86
8. Lexus 20,05
9. Mini 21,90
10. Citroën 25,98
11. Daewoo 26,30
12. Hyundai 26,36
13. Peugeot 26,59
14. Ford 26,76
15. Suzuki 27,20
16. Porsche 27,48
17. Fiat 28,49
18. BMW 28,64
19. Opel 28,77
20. Mercedes 29,90
21. Rover 30,12
22. Volvo 31,28
23. Volkswagen 31,44
24. Jaguar 32,05
25. Škoda 32,12
26. Chrysler 34,90
27. Audi 36,74
28. Seat 36,87
29. Renault 36,87
30. Alfa Romeo 39,13
31. Saab 41,59
33. Jeep 46,36
32. Land Rover 44,21

[brzi_pas]

Podaci nikako nisu "interesantni" jer japanci u ovoj "kategoriji" vec par godina razbijaju....
Vidim li ja ovo FIAT-a ispred BMW-a, Opela, Mercedesa, VW-a, Skode, Audija Renoa.......

[Zabjeloooo]

ma ovo je nemoguce cues kia ona da je bolja od folkswagena

[Mladjo]

uh kako je alfa niskoo,ovaj saab me cudi.

[Bad Boy]

pa ko zna sta se sve racuna jednim kvrom, recimo. relativno je ovo, mada sa druge strane, mene nije nesto puno iznenadilo, da vam pravo kazem..

[Fabia_Elegance!]

ma ovo je nemoguce cues kia ona da je bolja od folkswagena

Kia/Hyundai su jako jako dobri, da ne vjerujes.
Pocevsi od Kie Ceed, pa Sorento, pa nova Optima, Sonata, Santa Fe, Tuckson, VeraCruz....Azera koja ne zaostaje za Lexusom.
Ako je neko na putu Toyote onda je to Hyundai.

pa ko zna sta se sve racuna jednim kvrom, recimo. relativno je ovo, mada sa druge strane, mene nije nesto puno iznenadilo, da vam pravo kazem..

Vidji, moze bit nesto od ovih statistika, jer, svaka je skoro ista.

[Bad Boy]

pa da, upravo tako. vrlo je moguce da je ovo priblizno tacno. i nisam bio posebno iznenadjen.. i jos nesto.. recimo, vw, skoda, audi i seat prakticno jedni za drugim, sto je logicno, je li?

[Fabia_Elegance!]

Da, ali ipak mislim da Audi treba da bude ispod VW, Skode i Seata jer ima malo vise elektronike sto znaci da ima vise problema.

[X3M]

jes ali ovdje se pominju mehanicki kvarovi cini mi se :wink:

[Fabia_Elegance!]

Mehanicki kvar obuhvata sve to, elektroniku, mehaniku.....

[Fabia_Elegance!]

Evo jos jedna:


No surprises at the top of the list - a small but borderline obsessive band of Honda S2000 drivers have stepped up to sell us on the virtues of their banzai-revving roadster. It scored highly in every area - apart from a handful of concerns over ownership costs.

The smaller end of Honda's range scooped second place - the sensible-but-great Jazz scored highly in every category. Third and fourth place went to Skoda (Octavia and Fabia), helping the one time mocked company clinch first place in the manufacturer listings.

The top ten's biggest spotlight shines on Fiat though. The company's overall ranking in the manufacturer listings is a pretty lowly 31 out of 35, but an eighth place for the Panda may well mark a sea change.

'An eighth place for the Panda may well mark a sea change for Fiat'

Elsewhere in the list, Lexus RX and IS were pushed down to a still-respectable fifth and sixth, while Mazda and Jaguar also secured places for the MX-5 and XJ.

The top ten list in full:


The top ten list in full:

1 Honda S2000
For the third year in the trot, screaming VTEC power wins

2 Honda Jazz
Honda's yin and yang at the top of the table. Sensible, but great

3 Skoda Octavia
Old-gen Octavia, a masterpiece of dependability

4 Skoda Fabia
No fluke for Skoda, the Fabia is cheap and charming

5 Lexus RX300
Pseudo-SUV is so solid, and perfectly sorted by dealers too

6 Lexus IS200/300
Owners of the old-style IS are still smiling about Lexus service

7 Skoda Superb
Stretched Passat ranks 67 places above the original

8 Fiat Panda
A long awaited return to tiny car form for Fiat. Ciao bambino!

9 Mazda MX-5
The one before the MX-5 grew up on us. Still did the business

10 Jaguar XK
All-aluminium XJ6 and 8 justify every penny of owners' outlay




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To use the term 'shock' in relation to Peugeot's piss-poor placing may well rate as an exaggeration - the French firm performed just as badly last time around.

As naff as Skoda is good, Peugeot racked up three positions in the bottom ten - and came last overall in the manufacturer listing.

Citroen and Renault fared little better. The Laguna clawed back a few places from last year's result but still finished 143rd, while the Megane only managed a woeful fourth from bottom - just behind Citroen's C8.

It wasn't just the French manufacturers getting a kicking, though. Mercedes' A-Class and M-Class both put in bad performances, proof of how disastrously Benz lost the plot a few years back.

'As naff as Skoda is good, Peugeot racked up three positions in the bottom ten'

Here's the bottom ten list in full:

143 Renault Laguna
Last year's fourth from bottom car staggers up the table

144 Ford C-Max
Owners of Ford's other sports MAV say they're treated like dirt

145 Mercedes A-Class
Quite a claim: the old-shape A-Class is the UK's worst car to drive

146 Mercedes M-Class
Bottom placed two years ago, very nearly as miserable now

147 Peugeot 407
One of the newest cars in the survey falls at the first hurdle

148 Citroen C8
Near-identical twin MPV to the Peugeot 807, only just better

149 Renault Megane
A cute backside isn't enough distraction for the Megane's owners

150 Peugeot 307
No area of fit, finish or reliability ranks above awful for this heap

151 Renault Espace
As before, big MPVs like the Espace get the strongest kicking here

152 Peugeot 807
Falls down in every area. As satisfying as a dose of dysentery




No surprises at the top of the list - a small but borderline obsessive band of Honda S2000 drivers have stepped up to sell us on the virtues of their banzai-revving roadster. It scored highly in every area - apart from a handful of concerns over ownership costs.

The smaller end of Honda's range scooped second place - the sensible-but-great Jazz scored highly in every category. Third and fourth place went to Skoda (Octavia and Fabia), helping the one time mocked company clinch first place in the manufacturer listings.

The top ten's biggest spotlight shines on Fiat though. The company's overall ranking in the manufacturer listings is a pretty lowly 31 out of 35, but an eighth place for the Panda may well mark a sea change.

'An eighth place for the Panda may well mark a sea change for Fiat'

Elsewhere in the list, Lexus RX and IS were pushed down to a still-respectable fifth and sixth, while Mazda and Jaguar also secured places for the MX-5 and XJ.

The top ten list in full:


Here's the full list - from the great and the good to the automotive deadwood:

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1 Lexus 93.2
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2 Skoda 91.5
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3 Honda 90.0
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4 Mazda 88.9
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5 Toyota 88.4
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6 Subaru 88.3
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7 Mini 88.0
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8 Porsche 87.1
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9 Jaguar 87.0
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10 BMW 86.4
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11 Hyundai 86.1
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12 Volvo 85.3
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13 audi 84.9
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14 Saab 84.1
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15 Suzuki 83.9
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16 Seat 83.6
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17 Lotus 83.5
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18 Smart 83.5
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19 Nissan 82.6
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20 Chrysler 82.2




'The top of the table is filled with Japanese car makers and the bottom is predominantly French'

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21 Volkswagen 82.2 *
22 Rover 82.1
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23 Kia 82.1
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24 Mitsubishi 81.9
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25 Ford 81.7
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26 MG 80.9
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27 Vauxhall 80.6
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28 Alfa Romeo 79.9
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29 Jeep 79.4
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30 Daewoo 78.4
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31 Land Rover 78.2 *
32 Mercedes 77.9 *
33 Citroën 77.8
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34 Renault 76.4
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35 Fiat 76.0
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36 Peugeot 74.2

[aCid_cOokiE]

kuku pazi renoa..
ja znam vlasnika scenic-a, megana dizela 2004 godiste i megana rs 2004 godiste , sa njima redovno pricham o kolima (a o chemu drugom) i jos se nisu pozalili na kvarove.

a vidim ovo :
"Recimo, čak 92% Mazda vozila starosti 3-9 godina, nisu nikada imali mehanički kvar"

i kako posle ovoga moze KIA da bude na petom mjestu, kao relativno MLAD proizvodjach.Koliko to modela KIA ima starijih od 5,6 godina.

Ne chude me japanci na prvom mjestu ali zato ovo ostalo.
Ali dobro, mora da je radio statistiku crnogorski CEDEM, jer oni izbace statistiku na uzorku od 900 ispitanih gradjana
tako da je ova lista... ne znam, ja licno ne bih se vodio njome pri kupovini novog automobila

[simm]

Mehanicki kvar obuhvata sve to, elektroniku, mehaniku.....

A koji su onda kvarovi ne-mehanicki?

[Fabia_Elegance!]

kuku pazi renoa..
ja znam vlasnika scenic-a, megana dizela 2004 godiste i megana rs 2004 godiste , sa njima redovno pricham o kolima (a o chemu drugom) i jos se nisu pozalili na kvarove.

a vidim ovo :
"Recimo, čak 92% Mazda vozila starosti 3-9 godina, nisu nikada imali mehanički kvar"

i kako posle ovoga moze KIA da bude na petom mjestu, kao relativno MLAD proizvodjach.Koliko to modela KIA ima starijih od 5,6 godina.

Ne chude me japanci na prvom mjestu ali zato ovo ostalo.
Ali dobro, mora da je radio statistiku crnogorski CEDEM, jer oni izbace statistiku na uzorku od 900 ispitanih gradjana
tako da je ova lista... ne znam, ja licno ne bih se vodio njome pri kupovini novog automobila

Najmladji proizvodjac je Lexus - a najbolji.
Kie izgledaju lose, jeftine su....ali su solidne, nemaju puno elektronike i zato su pouzdane.

Simm, tu sam se krivo izrazio, mehanicki kvar je recimo radilica, Bosch pumpa, trap a el. kvar je senzor protoka vazduha, senzor ABS i td.

[WOODSTOCK]

lexus se ne racuna koa novi jer je to toyota,
dzabe kiji i da je prva.prije bi ladu uzeo

honda mislim,sta reci

[Zvek_Zivi]

Sve Ovo O Cemu Vi Mlatite Zavisi Samo Od Jedne Stvari .................................................. .................................................. ........................ A To Je Sofer !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[Fabia_Elegance!]

I sofer je vazan faktor ali npr. ja sam kupio novu Fabiju, pazio sam je, samo sto nisam spavao s njom. Do trece godine je radila kako treba, posle samo problemi. Isto ****** i sa E klasom...

[aCid_cOokiE]

evo mi se vlasnici gorepomenutih renoa pozalishe na kvarove "elektricne" prirode...
ne radi start engine dugme i jos neke stvarcice.Lako se popravi ali iritira.
A mehanickih kvarova nije bilo

[Fabia_Elegance!]

Rano je mehanicke kvarove.

[Igi]

Raduje me ovakva lista sad kad sam se odlucio za Mitsubishija...

Koga god pitam za misljenje, svi nesto vrte i klimaju glavom, ali niko nema nista konkretno da kaze...

Nadam se da se necu kajati...

[Fabia_Elegance!]

Tebra, to je japanac, i tacka!


Koga si to pitao?

[Fabia_Elegance!]

Jos jedna lista:

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/r...abilitysmr.jpg


1. Toyota
2. Honda
3. Scion
4. Acura
5. Lexus
6. Subaru
7. Hyundai
8. Infiniti
9. Mitsubishi
10. Mercury
11. Mazda
12. Audi
13. Lincoln
14. GMC
15. Volvo
16. Ford
17. Kia
18. Buick
19. BMW
20. Pontiac
21. Chevrolet
22. Dodge
23. Chrysler
24. Nissan
25. Saab
26. Suzuki
27. Volkswagen
28. Mini
29. Porsche
30. Saturn
31. Cadillac
32. Jeep
33. Jaguar
34. Hummer
35. Land Rover
36. Mercedes-Benz


Source: NewsWire

[2_fAsT_4_YoU]

ova lista mi je blago receno nerealna
zamisli citroen i peugeot medju evropljanima koji se najmanje kvare?!?

ili ovamo na listu fabia medju top 10 a sve Vw-ovi djelovi
kako onda vw nije jednako dobar il barem odmah iza

gluposti ako mene pitate nikad se nisam obazirao na ovo niti cu

zamisli land rover koji se meni nikad pokvario nije na zacelju
ili saab koji ima opstepoznat kvalitet

[Zvek_Zivi]

Ja mnim e su ovezi liste prdnjava ziva ! Cista laz dje neko dobi kammijone love zbog toga (ja tipam ameri) ,U Swecku su radjeni testovi na Charlmers fakultetu koji je jedan o najboljijeh svjeckijeh u svoju struku o tome kolko su vozila tj auta sigurna ! Ispade da one zvjezdice od 1 do 5 cista laz i izmisljotina ! Pise e je Saab na 25 mjesto po kvarovima stoje opet jedna straovita laz ! Licno gledam svaki bozji dan Saabove stare po 20 30 40 godina po temperaturi ka na sibir i nema nijde njih pored puta dok smeca japanskoga i azijskoga pun Q*rac ! Volvo je popustijo ali su sve to kvarovi koji dodju do greske prilikom sastavljanja i srede se brzinski ,pa zarad boga crnoga ne gledate uste svudje Volvo PV ili amazon ili Saab 99 ,pa 900 koji su striji od mene 10 20 godina i opet ih nema pored puta na - 20 , 30 gradi ispod nule !

[Fabia_Elegance!]

Ja mislim da pricamo o novim modelima Saaba.
Jesi li vidio Saab 9-7X? Nadam se da jesi. Taj auto nije Saab, taj auto je Oldsmobile Bravada/Chevy TrailBlazer/GMC Envoy. Svedsko je samo znak i prednja maska. Saab 9-3 je komplet americki. Sve unutra je GM-ovo, cak ima GM-ov OnStar. Pa o kojem Saabovom kvalitetu pricamo?

Volvo - je Ford. Recimo Volvo S40/V50 lezi na platformi Forda Focusa i sve unutra je od Focusa. S60 je Fusion, S80 je Ford Fivehundred.



Imali smo nekoliko Land Rovera. Pitam se ko jos kupuje takve limenke.