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    Zato samo najbolji mogu do 3 titule zaredom sa istim timom. Motivacija i istrajnost su veliki problem.
    Zato su najbolji u lottery sad....Spurs nikad nisu 3peat..znaci li to da nisu najbolja fransiza u zadnjih 15 godina koja igra sa istim jezgrom ?

    Quote Originally Posted by jokaš View Post
    Dalas je sastavio finu ekipicu, osim prodaje Meriona.
    Što mislite za ovu godinu?
    Može li što napravit?
    Kakav Dallas..Doveli Feltona i Chandlera, one dvije kese takoreci..Chandler nekad bio dobar ali sada je sasvim jedan prosjecan centar..Ni sijenka sebe kada je bio DPOY prije 2 godine.. Polagali su nade da dovedu neko dobro ime u free agnecy ali nista od toga.. Nowizki ostaje core tima ali u ovakvom West, nemaju oni sta da traze.Kako god, i dalje su sposobni da zagorcaju zivot najjacim ekipama u playoff...Kao Spursima prosle sezone..

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    Ni jedan sastav Spursa u zadnjih 15 godina se ne moze smatrati najacim kojeg smo vidjeli u tih 15 godina.

    A ovo za lottery te nisam razumio pa pojasni.

    Evo se smijem kad se sjetih da je Lebron najavio 7-8 titula sa Majamijem a utece doma ovog ljeta.
    U utakmicama Miami - Cleveland cu da navijam za Miami.
    Uf...Ovi zadnji Spursi igraju najbolju kosarku, jos od Lakersa sa Shaqom i Brajantom. Ono poluvrijeme sa procentom suta 90% nikad niko nece ponovit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guest View Post
    Ni jedan sastav Spursa u zadnjih 15 godina se ne moze smatrati najacim kojeg smo vidjeli u tih 15 godina.

    A ovo za lottery te nisam razumio pa pojasni.

    Evo se smijem kad se sjetih da je Lebron najavio 7-8 titula sa Majamijem a utece doma ovog ljeta.
    U utakmicama Miami - Cleveland cu da navijam za Miami.
    Lottey je moj cheap shot Nije bitno

    Lebron je mozda moga uzet 7-8 prstena ali ne znam zasto ode ..Valjda ta njegova ljubav prema Clevelandu je glavni razlog, a ne nemogucnost Miami-a da sagradi kvalitetnu ekipu oko njega.. Sad se pitam da li bi posao da je Miami 3peat..
    Moja neka teorija je da je shvatio da ne moze osvojit 6-7 prstenova pa da ce jedna-dvije titule sa Clevelandom to da nadomjeste jer niko to nije napravio u NBA, kao takvome gradu donio trofej..Grad koji ceka od 60tih godina na trofej u bilo kojem sportu..Vise mi ih je pun 'urac..I u NFL se samo o njima prica a nece ni do playoffa stic. ,Ja rekoh, najveca zelja ove sezone su mi Cavs-Heat u playoff..Bilo prva runda ili ECF, svejedno.

    Nego jedva cekam kad mu Kevin Love i Irving pokazu svoje prave boje kad je u pitanju odbrana i playoff iskustvo.

    Ne znam jeste vidjeli ali Wade je nekoliko puta na Instagram izbacao quotes kao "Loyalty" i slicno..Valjda je to namijenjeno Lebronu zato sto je posao Kao sto rekoh prije, ovi prelazi Lebrona tamo i nazad ce mu bit mrlja na karijeri kad je zavrsi..I to sto mu trebaju superstars, Mike Milleri,itd da bi osvojio prsten..

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    Quote Originally Posted by miha View Post
    Kakav Dallas..Doveli Feltona i Chandlera, one dvije kese takoreci..Chandler nekad bio dobar ali sada je sasvim jedan prosjecan centar..Ni sijenka sebe kada je bio DPOY prije 2 godine.. Polagali su nade da dovedu neko dobro ime u free agnecy ali nista od toga.. Nowizki ostaje core tima ali u ovakvom West, nemaju oni sta da traze.Kako god, i dalje su sposobni da zagorcaju zivot najjacim ekipama u playoff...Kao Spursima prosle sezone..
    Čendler kesa? Teško, svojevremeno se sprdao s Majamijem (kad ih je Dalas pobjedio u finalu) a Felton je solidan igrač.
    Zaboravio si Parsonsa koji je ogromno pojačanje
    Btw, sa ekipom koja je grđa od ove sad masu (po mom mišljenju), klao se San Antonio s njima i nijanse su odlučile, tako da...

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    Chandler je kesa vec 2 godine, jeste upgrade na ono sto su imali prosle godine ali je on daleko od nekog ozbiljnog igraca.Jedino Carlisle madjionicar moze iz one rage izvuci nesta vise od prosjeka.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jokaš View Post
    Čendler kesa? Teško, svojevremeno se sprdao s Majamijem (kad ih je Dalas pobjedio u finalu) a Felton je solidan igrač.
    Zaboravio si Parsonsa koji je ogromno pojačanje
    Btw, sa ekipom koja je grđa od ove sad masu (po mom mišljenju), klao se San Antonio s njima i nijanse su odlučile, tako da...
    To svojevremeno je bilo daleke 2011.godine ..Felton da je solidan igrac NY bi ga zadrzali, nego su vidjeli potencijal one kese u njemu pa su ga na trade stavili..Cisto su ga nakacili zajedno sa Chandler-om da malo oslobode salary cap..
    Zaboravih na Parsonsa.. Imace finu ekipu ali to je to..

    My projections: 48-34 rekord , zavrsavaju 6-8 mjesto u WC

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    Quote Originally Posted by guest View Post
    Mislio si na Lejkerse kao fransizu . Moramo se sloziti da Shaq nema nista sa tim sto su Lejkersi prosle godine isli na lottery .
    Nego mi je milo da se slozismo da je tim Kobe + Shaq + druzina = najbolji NBA roster vidjen u zadnjih 15 godina.
    Moram se sloziti, teska srca..

    Steta sto necete biti relevantni narednih 4-5 godina..Kobe Bean Bryant da odradi jos ove 2 godine ugovora i to je to..
    Ista takva situacija ce biti na East coast, u Bostonu..Ko zna kad ce oni tek bit znacajni..

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    https://v.cdn.vine.co/r/videos_h264h...pjY5YaH26AVSII

    Nema odbrane odje..Onih par defanzivnih stops sto smo vidjeli protiv Finaca je bila cista slucajnost

    -------------------------------------------------------

    Jason Terry traded to Rockets.

    Warriors and Barbosa agree to deal.

    Rumors:

    Rajon Rondo wants "out", according to reports. Sacramento interested in acquiring the point guard.

    Clippers,Spurs and Cavaliers in pursue of Ray Allen. Po onome sto vidim, SAS ima najvecu sansu da ga dovede.
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    Zaboravio sam da je Dalas doveo i Nelsona koji je solidan plej i Aminua koji je dobar igrač

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    Quote Originally Posted by jokaš View Post
    Zaboravio sam da je Dalas doveo i Nelsona koji je solidan plej i Aminua koji je dobar igrač
    Imace ta dva niska pleja u njemu i Feltonu.. Dobar perimeter shooting ali odlaskom Meriona odbrana prima udarac..

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    Prodaja Meriona je definitivno greška.
    Doveli su mrtvog Džefersona.

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    ada doveli su aminua da igra odbranu i opali koju trojku. nije da je marion radio sto vise od toga zadnjih godina.
    Y teimlad sy'n gyrru ti i feddwl nad yw'r dyfodol mor fler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moon safari View Post
    ada doveli su aminua da igra odbranu i opali koju trojku. nije da je marion radio sto vise od toga zadnjih godina.
    I sa njim su primali masu poena po mecu nego ih je izvlacio taj ofanzivni tempo..Mozda Chandler proradi opet, ko ce ga znat..

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    Čendler je odličan skakač i solidan igrač.
    Jes da više nema 25 godina, ali biće od koristi.
    A u Aminua polažu nade.
    Svakako su sastavili respektivan tim.
    A Merion je itekako koristan bio.

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    Evo izgleda jos jedan NBA owner sam sebe prijavio zbog rasizma Ovog puta Atlanta Hawksi i kaze da je spreman da proda svoj udio.Neki email je valjda razlog prodaje jer kaze da ima problema da okupi ljude koji bi im uzimali sezonske karte.

    1. from day one i have been impressed with the friendliness and professionalism of the arena staff -- food vendors, ushers, ticket takers, etc. in our early years when i would bring folks from dc they were blown away by the contrast between abe pollin's arena and philips. some of this is attributable to southern hospital and manners but bob and his staff do a good job of training. To this day, I can not get the ushers to call me Bruce yet they insist on me calling them by their first names.

    2. the non-premium area food is better than most arenas, though that is not saying much. i think there is room for improvement and creativity. Levy is our food vendor so we don't have much control but they have been good partners. i have wished we had some inconic offereing like boog's barbeque at the baseball stadium in balt.

    3. our new restaurant, red, just opened so too early for me to give you my thoughts.

    4. Regarding game ops, i need to start with some background. for the first couple of years we owned the team, i didn't much focus on game ops. then one day a light bulb went off. when digging into why our season ticket base is so small, i was told it is because we can't get 35-55 white males and corporations to buy season tixs and they are the primary demo for season tickets around the league. when i pushed further, folks generally shrugged their shoulders. then i start looking around our arena during games and notice the following:

    -- it's 70 pct black

    -- the cheerleaders are black

    -- the music is hip hop

    -- at the bars it's 90 pct black

    -- there are few fathers and sons at the games

    -- we are doing after game concerts to attract more fans and the concerts are either hip hop or gospel.

    Then i start looking around at other arenas. It is completely different. Even DC with its affluent black community never has more than 15 pct black audience.

    Before we bought the hawks and for those couple years immediately after in an effort to make the arena look full (at the nba's urging) thousands and thousands of tickets were being giving away, predominantly in the black community, adding to the overwhelming black audience.

    My theory is that the black crowd scared away the whites and there are simply not enough affluent black fans to build a signficant season ticket base. Please dont get me wrong. There was nothing threatening going on in the arean back then. i never felt uncomfortable, but i think southern whites simply were not comfortable being in an arena or at a bar where they were in the minority. On fan sites i would read comments about how dangerous it is around philips yet in our 9 years, i don't know of a mugging or even a pick pocket incident. This was just racist garbage. When I hear some people saying the arena is in the wrong place I think it is code for there are too many blacks at the games.

    I have been open with our executive team about these concerns. I have told them I want some white cheerleaders and while i don't care what the color of the artist is, i want the music to be music familiar to a 40 year old white guy if that's our season tixs demo. i have also balked when every fan *****d out of crowd to shoot shots in some time out contest is black. I have even bitched that the kiss cam is too black.

    Gradually things have changed. My unscientific guess is that our crowd is 40 pct black now, still four to five times all other teams. And my further guess is that 40 pct still feels like 70 pet to some whites at our games. Our bars are still overwhelmingly black.

    This is obviously a sensitive topic, but sadly i think it is far and way the number one reason our season ticket base is so low.

    And many of our black fans don't have the spendable income which explains why our f&b and merchandise sales are so low. At all white thrasher games sales were nearly triple what they are at hawks games (the extra intermission explains some of that but not all).


    Regardless of what time a game starts, we have the latest arriving crowd in the league. It often looks and sounds empty when the team takes the floor.

    In the past two years, we have created a section of rowdy college students that has been a big plus. And we do a lot of very clever stuff during time outs to entertain the crowd. Our kiss cam is better done than any in the league.

    We have all the same halftime acts that other arenas have but i question whether they make sense. people are on their cell phones during half time. i wonder if flashing on the scoreboard "$2 off on hot dogs during halftime tonight" just as the half ends would be a better use of our halftime dollars and make the fans happier.

    We do all the usual giveways and the fans are usually their loudest when our spirit crew takes the floor to give away t-shirts. It pisses me off that they will yell louder for a t-shirt then for our players.

    Our player intro is flat. We manufacture a lot of noise but because of the late arriving crowd and the fact that a lot of blacks dont seem to go as crazy cheering (another one of my theories) as whites, it is not great. Even when we have just returned from winnng four straight on the road, i am one of the few people in the arena standing and cheering when our team takes the floor. Bob has kicked around ideas like having the starters coming down aisles rather than off the bench during intros. Sounds cool but may highlight all the empty seats at the start of games.

    Not enough of our fans wear hawks jerseys to games. i have just begun to push for ideas like discount food lines for folks wearing jerseys, special entrances, etc. I think we need a committed and perhaps incentivized fan club. We need to realize atl is simply different than every other city. Just adopting nba best practices is not enough. we have to create our own.

    I am rambling and could probably go on forever. If you have any specific areas you would like my thoughts on, let me know.

    Best,

    Bruce

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    Vidio sam ovo..Kakav penal..

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    Procitah ovo na brzinu.Sto znam.Na osnovu procitanog rekao bih da je ovaj tip rasista koliko i bilo koji drugi biznismen,u prevodu citava black/white prica je u funkciji analize kako doci do sto veceg profita.Da crnci redovno pune 90% njegove arene i imaju plateznu moc bijelaca,bojlela bi ga patka,koliko ja vidim.Lik ima sve odlike dobro podgojene kapltalisticke svinje sa 'any means neccessary' razmisljanjem po pitanju zarade,ali nesto ne vidim da ga to razlikuje od ostalih NBA vlasnika.
    Generalno,smatram sebe za nekog ko je potpuno otporan na predrasude po pitanju boje koze,ali ne mogu da ne primijetim lov na vjestice u americkom drustvu,generalno,i u NBA po pitanju rasizma.Problem je u tome sto je ta prica u potpunosti jednosmjerna.Nesto imam utisak da se niko nebi ni iscimao da objavljuje ovakav e-mail da je u pitanju vlasnik crnac i da je prica obrnuta.
    Sterling je vec prica za sebe,lik ima zescu istoriju ispada,i rasistickih i drugih,iza sebe.Ovo vec ... ne znam.

    Procitao i drugi put.Ako je ovo jedini razlog da se tipu prikaci etiketa rasiste,onda i definitivno




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    Kapitalisticke svinje pored "any means necessary" imaju i minimum cost a maximum profit za cilj..Nego sto rekose davno, boljeg sistema nema..

    Mnogi ne vjeruju u rasizam kada su strane obrnute. Mozda zato sto nikad nismo bili "pod represijom od strane negros-a"

    Uglavnom, novine daju najvise paznje ovome i sada Atlantin value meter is going up..Mediji toliko to napumpaju + uticaj socijalnih mreza dovodi to do maksimuma..

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    Odakle Vijesti iskopase da je Vucevic potpisao 4/48 produzenje sa Orlandom nije mi jasno...

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    ima reporta da su pregovori neki, ali potpis ne vidjeh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrTwister View Post
    Odakle Vijesti iskopase da je Vucevic potpisao 4/48 produzenje sa Orlandom nije mi jasno...
    Je li moguće da su objavili to, kakvi stručnjaci.
    Pokupili procjenu sa nekog bloga, od tipa koji pretpostavlja da će klub Vučeviću ponudit ugovor sličan onom koji je potpisao Fejvors, na osnovu slične statistike.

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    Old but gold


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    Dvadeset i dvije godine, tri sezone u NBA.
    Novi MVP svjetskog prvenstva.
    2x All-Star, All-Star MVP, Rookie of the Year, Rising Stars Challenge MVP.

    Dame i gospođo, Kajri Irving.

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    Zasluženo potpuno
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    Zna Kyrie da eksplodira na najvecoj sceni..Isto ovo je radio na All-Star game..Ostaje jos da ga vidimo na playoff sceni kada se igra najjaca kosarka na svijetu.Ali stvarno klasa od igraca..Oni crossoveri, onda sut i ulazi..zaista kompletan plej.

    @kinetic Zaboravio si da pomenes i da je bio sampion na 3pt contest..I to u dosta jakoj konkurenciji

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