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    Quote Originally Posted by Recordare88 View Post
    Ovaj lollercoaster kao etapa Tour de France-a
    Jes Biće još, ova tema počinje da bude epska.

    Quote Originally Posted by autodijagnostika View Post
    A ja ne kapiram kako ti posle ovoliko rasprave ne shvati da vjernici (bar neki) uopste ne traze materijalne dokaze za postojanje Boga, kako ne shvatas da vjernik u sebi gaji duhovne osobine zbog kojih osjeca logicnim svoje vjerovanje u Boga?
    Sve da je religija prevara, ono sto nam je Isus pokazao bi trebalo da je ideal kome treba stremiti.
    Ali covjek pogle cuda uglavnom ide suprotno od toga.
    Smislen post od tebe, nisam se ovome nadao
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    Quote Originally Posted by BooQy View Post
    Jes Biće još, ova tema počinje da bude epska
    Ovo lichi na Grenoble-Les Deux Alpes,Tour 1998,

    Ahha.Josh kad se gushteri pojave,ima da bude fenomenalno...
    Deserve's got nothing to do with it.

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    A ja vidjeh nesto fali... eto booqy sad si u komplet... ka ona dvojica iz muppet show-a... e face ste.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VanjaTheMan View Post
    I opet ovaj ne odgovori zasto vjeruje i zasto je tako siguran da bog postoji. Ne daje nijedan argument a pokusava da pobije tudje argumente. Stvarno cudan covjek.
    A ti meni ne odgovori ni na sta. Bez sto rece da ti je TEORIJA dokaz.

    A vjerovatno sam siguran sto znam... nebi vjerovatno bio siguran. Podji od sebe... vidji kako si ti nesiguran.

    Ali ne tebi je lakse da mislilish.. " svi su oni glupi i vjeruju u bapske price ".... a ovamo sam ti dao listu najpoznatiji svetskih naucnika i listu nobelovaca koji su svi vjerovali u Boga. A da hocesh nasao bi da nema umjetnika, filozofa niti jednog nadarenog covjeka koji nije vjerovao u Boga.

    A dokaza ima svudje oko tebe i u tebe. I materijalnih i nematerijalnih.
    Last edited by Ego_and_his_own; 12-10-09 at 23:10.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ego_and_his_own View Post
    Koja nauka? Evo sto vam je neznanje.
    Ali makar znash sto je glupo... Bitno je da su te naucili da si ti od Majmuna nasta.A To tije pametno. A dokaz ti je TEORIJA Evolucije?


    Postoje dvije vrste nevjernika. Jedni su takvi iz inata, a drugi su fabrikovani. Brain washed and ready for usage right out of factory.

    Ti znash da ga nismo vidjeli, ti znash da niko nije pricao sa njim i ti znash da je to sve rekla kazla i sve je to izmislio covjek... a teoriju Evolucije nije izmislio Majmun tj negov nasledinik...

    ... a ne znash ti nista.

    Dobro je Kuran proreka:

    Budite Majmuni prezreni.

    Sto Bog Prezire to ti hocesh da budesh. Pa budi.

    Pogledaj koliko naucnika i istrazivaca radi na istrazivanje evo desetinama hiljada godina. Nema naucnika koji je nesto znacajno doprinio nauci a da nije vjerovao u Boga... i ti kazesh vjernici su neznalice.


    1. Nicholas Copernicus (1473-1543)
    2. Sir Francis Bacon (1561-1627)
    3. Johannes Kepler (1571-1630)
    4. Galileo Galilei (1564-1642)
    5. Rene Descartes (1596-1650)
    6. Isaac Newton (1642-1727)
    7. Robert Boyle (1791-1867)
    8. Michael Faraday (1791-1867)
    9. Gregor Mendel (1822-1884)
    10. William Thomson Kelvin (1824-1907)
    11. Max Planck (1858-1947)
    12. Albert Einstein (1879-1955)


    50 nobelovaca koji su vjernici kao i ostali izmedju ostalih i Darwin:

    http://www.adherents.com/people/100_Nobel.html

    Ti pojma nemash sto pricash. A jedan klik od tebe na google sve informacije. Toliko je daleko saznanje od tebe. Samo TREBA TRAZIT! A muke...

    Evo ti Vanja odgovor.

    Ova knjiga je besplatna
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cika_Dzo View Post
    Ne kapiraš ti to,on je u Orindž Kaunti.
    Cika Dzo

    Daj suzdrzi se malo.... ako je zaista potrebno da me personifikujesh sa necim losim onda probaj neki drugi pristup. Ovaj ne ide ocigledno...

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    A da hocesh nasao bi da nema umjetnika, filozofa niti jednog nadarenog covjeka koji nije vjerovao u Boga.
    Hahahahaha, sjajno Best thread ever!
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    Ko vjeruje/je vjerovao u Boga:

    PART I. NOBEL SCIENTISTS (20th - 21st Century)
    1. Albert EINSTEIN – Nobel Laureate in Physics
    2. Max PLANCK – Nobel Laureate in Physics
    3. Erwin SCHROEDINGER – Nobel Laureate in Physics
    4. Werner HEISENBERG – Nobel Laureate in Physics
    5. Robert MILLIKAN – Nobel Laureate in Physics
    6. Charles TOWNES – Nobel Laureate in Physics
    7. Arthur SCHAWLOW – Nobel Laureate in Physics
    8. William PHILLIPS – Nobel Laureate in Physics
    9. William BRAGG – Nobel Laureate in Physics
    10. Guglielmo MARCONI – Nobel Laureate in Physics
    11. Arthur COMPTON – Nobel Laureate in Physics
    12. Arno PENZIAS – Nobel Laureate in Physics
    13. Nevill MOTT – Nobel Laureate in Physics
    14. Isidor Isaac RABI – Nobel Laureate in Physics
    15. Abdus SALAM – Nobel Laureate in Physics
    16. Antony HEWISH – Nobel Laureate in Physics
    17. Joseph H. TAYLOR, Jr. – Nobel Laureate in Physics
    18. Alexis CARREL – Nobel Laureate in Medicine and Physiology
    19. John ECCLES – Nobel Laureate in Medicine and Physiology
    20. Joseph MURRAY – Nobel Laureate in Medicine and Physiology
    21. Ernst CHAIN – Nobel Laureate in Medicine and Physiology
    22. George WALD – Nobel Laureate in Medicine and Physiology
    23. Ronald ROSS – Nobel Laureate in Medicine and Physiology
    24. Derek BARTON – Nobel Laureate in Chemistry
    25. Christian ANFINSEN – Nobel Laureate in Chemistry
    26. Walter KOHN – Nobel Laureate in Chemistry
    27. Richard SMALLEY – Nobel Laureate in Chemistry
    PART II. NOBEL WRITERS (20th - 21st Century)
    28. T.S. ELIOT – Nobel Laureate in Literature
    29. Rudyard KIPLING – Nobel Laureate in Literature
    30. Alexander SOLZHENITSYN – Nobel Laureate in Literature
    31. Francois MAURIAC – Nobel Laureate in Literature
    32. Hermann HESSE – Nobel Laureate in Literature
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    33. Winston CHURCHILL – Nobel Laureate in Literature
    34. Jean-Paul SARTRE – Nobel Laureate in Literature
    35. Sigrid UNDSET – Nobel Laureate in Literature
    36. Rabindranath TAGORE – Nobel Laureate in Literature
    37. Rudolf EUCKEN – Nobel Laureate in Literature
    38. Isaac SINGER – Nobel Laureate in Literature
    PART III. NOBEL PEACE LAUREATES (20th - 21st
    Century)
    39. Albert SCHWEITZER – Nobel Peace Prize Laureate
    40. Jimmy CARTER – Nobel Peace Prize Laureate
    41. Theodore ROOSEVELT – Nobel Peace Prize Laureate
    42. Woodrow WILSON – Nobel Peace Prize Laureate
    43. Frederik de KLERK – Nobel Peace Prize Laureate
    44. Nelson MANDELA – Nobel Peace Prize Laureate
    45. Kim DAE-JUNG – Nobel Peace Prize Laureate
    46. Dag HAMMARSKJOELD – Nobel Peace Prize Laureate
    47. Martin Luther KING, Jr. – Nobel Peace Prize Laureate
    48. Adolfo PEREZ ESQUIVEL – Nobel Peace Prize Laureate
    49. Desmond TUTU – Nobel Peace Prize Laureate
    50. John R. MOTT – Nobel Peace Prize Laureate
    PART IV. FOUNDERS OF MODERN SCIENCE (16th - 21st
    Century)
    1. Isaac NEWTON – founder of Classical Physics and Infinitesimal Calculus
    2. Galileo GALILEI – founder of Experimental Physics
    3. Nicolaus COPERNICUS – founder of Heliocentric Cosmology
    4. Johannes KEPLER – founder of Physical Astronomy and Modern Optics
    5. Francis BACON – founder of the scientific inductive method
    6. Rene DESCARTES – founder of Analytical Geometry and Modern Philosophy
    7. Blaise PASCAL – founder of Hydrostatics, Hydrodynamics, and the Theory of
    Probabilities
    8. Michael FARADAY – founder of Electronics and Electro-magnetics
    9. James Clerk MAXWELL – founder of Statistical Thermodynamics
    10. Lord KELVIN – founder of Thermodynamics and Energetics
    11. Robert BOYLE – founder of Modern Chemistry
    12. William HARVEY – founder of Modern Medicine
    13. John RAY – founder of Modern Biology and Natural History
    14. Gottfried Wilhelm LEIBNIZ – German mathematician and philosopher, founder of Infinitesimal Calculus

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    15. Charles DARWIN – founder of the Theory of Evolution
    16. Ernst HAECKEL – German biologist, the most influential evolutionist in continental
    Europe
    17. Thomas H. HUXLEY – English biologist and evolutionist, famous as “Darwin’s
    bulldog”
    18. Joseph J. THOMSON – Nobel Laureate in Physics, discoverer of the electron, founder
    of atomic physics
    19. Louis PASTEUR – founder of Microbiology and Immunology
    20. Wernher von BRAUN – rocket engineer, founder of Astronautics
    21. Francis COLLINS – Director of the National Human Genome Research Institute
    22. Founders of Modern Science Included in Part I
    TABLE: SCIENTIFIC DISCIPLINES ESTABLISHED BY BIBLE-BELIEVING SCIENTISTS
    PART V. GREAT PHILOSOPHERS (17th - 21st Century)
    1. Immanuel KANT – one of the greatest philosophers in the history of Western Philosophy
    2. Jean-Jacques ROUSSEAU – founder of Modern Deism
    3. VOLTAIRE – French philosopher and historian, one of the most influential thinkers of the Enlightenment
    4. David HUME – Scottish empiricist philosopher, historian, and economist, founder of Modern Skepticism
    5. SPINOZA – Dutch-Jewish philosopher, the chief exponent of Modern Rationalism
    6. Giordano BRUNO – Italian philosopher, astronomer, and mathematician, founder of the Theory of the Infinite Universe
    7. George BERKELEY – Irish philosopher and mathematician, founder of Modern Idealism, famous as “the precursor of Mach and Einstein”
    8. John Stuart MILL – English philosopher and economist, the major exponent of Utilitarianism
    9. Ludwig WITTGENSTEIN – one of the founders of analytic philosophy
    10. Richard SWINBURNE – Oxford Professor of Philosophy, one of the most influential theistic philosophers

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    Prije svega, postoji topic o Einsteinu, i mnogi sumnjaju u to njegovo vjerovanje, tj da se to menjalo, ako sam dobro shvatio. Za ostale stvarno nemam pojma.
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    Orindž Kaunti,ovi što su dobili Nobela za Mir i Književnost,nisu naučnici.
    E da - Sartr nije vjerovao u Boga,Ajnštajn je bio veoma neodlučan.Darvin je bio agnostik,Kant je bio agnostik,Tomas Haksli je bio agnostik.
    Za ostale,tu i tamo,članovi različitih crkvi,sekti i pravaca misli.Kako i treba da bude.I to ne znači ništa.Što bi uopšte trebalo to da bude?Argument za postojanje Boga?
    Neko pametniji od mene je mislio i da Boga ima i da Boga nema.Velika stvar.
    Osim slobodoumnim pojedincima kao što si ti,kojima je baš važno da se identifikuju sa nekim pametnijim od sebe.
    Nismo svi imali sreću da se oslobodimo na obali Pacifika.Orindž Kaunti,ej.Nije to mala stvar.
    Lista ti je pomalo felerična.Probaj da sastaviš svoju,možda ti i uspije.Ovako je bazirana samo na korištenju opcija copy - paste sa nekog super sajta koji redovno posjećuješ.Ili iz knjige,nedirektnog izvora informacija.
    Uzmi nešto njihovo u ruke ponekad.
    Naravno,ne vjerujem da ćeš se adekvatno upoznati sa radom i mislima ovih ljudi još dugo vremena.Lakše je kopirati sa sajta.
    To je put mudrosti!
    "And if they didn't believe me, they believe me now."

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    A tebi je Cika Dzo sve felericno.. od Orange Countia pa do anstajna neodlucnog...

    A ne no cu se ugledat na budale... normalno da cu se ugledat na pametne ljude i sta su oni cijenili.

    E vidim znash sto je put mudrosti vala... evo si zaslajfova na neki makadam...
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    Vjera se ne bazira na dokazima i znanju. Vjerovali jesu, znali nisu. Sto znaci da ne moraju automatski da budu u pravu.

    Sto je fora sa Orange County? Zar nije Sunny California fino mjesto? Ja misljah da jes'...
    Look upon my works ye mighty and this pear...

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    Ma zezam se sa Cika Dzo...

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    [quote=Ego_and_his_own;1320754]Ko vjeruje/je vjerovao u Boga:

    PART I. NOBEL SCIENTISTS (20th - 21st Century)
    Ego, da li si siguran da su vjerovali u ista?? Nisu morali.

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