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    Jester's Dance je jedino sto sam mogao cut' od In Flames kad sam otkrivao metal, da ne povjeruje covjek da se od benda sa onako grozomornim vokalom moze ocekivati takvo nesto.
    'Atomik, o-o, atomik, ou tunajt'

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    hahahaa,niste chuli haggard i the sins of thy beloved...
    e da chujete te vokale...

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    E ljudi moji pa oce li ko mozda ikada pomenuti Nu metal????????????????????Hvatate se za te gluposti crnjacke uzmite malo opojne muzike Slipknot-a,Korna,SOAD-a,Linkina,Roacha..................


    Overview
    The origins of nu metal can be pinpointed to the Lollapalooza music festival in the 1990's which increased the exposure of bands who performed brands of metal and metal-influenced alternative music that had little to do with traditional genre approaches (see Alternative metal). The funk influence of Primus, The Red Hot Chili Peppers and Fishbone, the hip hop crossover of Rage Against the Machine and Urban Dance Squad, the industrial metal of Nine Inch Nails and Ministry, and the aggressive experimental rock of Tool have been mentioned numerous times as influences who toured on the festival by nu metal bands who gained mass-media exposure at the end of the millennium.

    Nirvana frontman Kurt Cobain's death in 1994 would signal the beginning of the decline of alternative rock (and grunge in particular) as the driving force in modern American rock music, paving the way for nu metal to gain ground with the public. Grunge is perhaps the most recognizable ancestor of nu metal; the quick jolts of distorted guitar chords, tortured vocals and lyrics of angst associated with grunge have found clear public display in signature nu metal artists, including those with a reputation for integrating hip hop into their sound.

    While Deftones, Korn and Limp Bizkit are typically cited as the genre's instigators, bands like Fishbone, Body Count, Urban Dance Squad, Faith No More, Jane's Addiction, Helmet, Soundgarden, Rage Against The Machine, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Tool, and others are also proclaimed as progenitors. Linkin Park is the best selling nu metal act with 35 million copies sold out of their first two full-lengths, Hybrid Theory and Meteora. Producer Ross Robinson was labelled by some as "The Godfather of Nu Metal" due to his producing of several notable Nu Metal albums. Nu metal bands also typically claim influence by more conventional metal acts, particularly Black Sabbath; it also has some sonic similarity with death metal as well as thrash metal bands like Metallica and Megadeth. Entertainment!, the 1979 debut from British post-punk group Gang of Four has been cited as an indirect influence. Critic Andy Kellman suggests that the album's "vaguely funky rhythmic twitch, its pungent, pointillistic guitar staccattos, and its spoken/shouted vocals have all been *****d up by many."

    The term "nu metal" was coined in the late nineties to denote the resurgance of metal in the public eye with the rise in popularity of bands such as Korn, Limp Bizkit, and the Deftones, as well as the success of the traveling Ozzfest festival. Ozzfest, unlike the diverse Lollapalooza, provided a venue solely for the metal scene. Mainstream metal had been largely derided in America for most of the decade as glam metal excess had been eliminated by the success of alternative rock, but Ozzfest demonstrated that a sizable audience existed for new heavy metal sounds. Unlike previous eras who held bands such as Led Zeppelin and Judas Priest as their icons, the newer bands typically drew direct inspiration from more recent metal movements (particularly thrash and alternative metal).

    While Korn had released their first album in 1994 at the height of alternative rock's popularity, their true breakthrough came with the release of their 1998 album Follow the Leader and the accompanying Family Values Tour that year, which also included Limp Bizkit, Incubus, Orgy, Ice Cube and Rammstein. Soon other bands gained major radio airplay and rotation on MTV's Total Request Live program, leading critics to declare a resurgence in rock music as a whole.

    The sentiment was reinforced by MTV's "Return of the Rock" specials which featured Korn, Limp Bizkit, and related bands. Other acts, such as Slipknot, Godsmack, Papa Roach, P.O.D., and Incubus, also managed major mainstream success at the turn of the century. Nu metal became a term not only encompassing alt-metal bands like Korn, but also a large number of bands who were considered a revitalization of metal by adopting and updating the extreme aggression and tropes of metal such as showmanship and machismo for the turn of the century. Instead of dressing up in spandex, conjuring up images of the occult and dating models, nu metal bands like Limp Bizkit mixed hip-hop fashion and the goatees and piercings of the alternative scene, painted their faces, expressed angst about relationships, and dated porn stars.

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    Criticisms
    Nu metal bands essentially defined the image of modern metal music in the late 90s/early 2000s by headlining major rock concerts like the Ozzfest festival and Woodstock 1999 as well as dominating the playlists of both Modern Rock and hard rock radio stations, to the chagrin of many. Criticisms included the incorporation of hip-hop and electronic sounds, the emphasis of groove and texture over traditional metal hallmarks such as solos and intricate riffing, the mass appeal that some viewed as selling out and a faux rebellion, and particularly the empashis on angst and aggression in the music. Many disapproved of the rapping and screaming of Nu Metal frontmen, favoring the more ambitious vocal performances of classic metal acts. Fans of rap music often feel that their genre has been adapted tastelessly by nu metal bands (Linkin Park's Mike Shinoda, for instance, has been received poorly by rap scene, despite the band's widespread popularity).





    Categorization of specific artists as "nu metal" is difficult, considering the widespread mistrust of the term among artists and fans alike, and the "edges" are fuzzy where nu metal bleeds into other genres. In general, the artists in question are American bands that found their first success in the mid- to late 1990s. Immediately, other artists began shaping their sound to resemble the new groove-driven metal.

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    Guitar
    Unlike traditional metal, the overall defining trait of nu metal guitar-playing is the emphasis on mood and texture over melody or complex instrumentation, achieved largely through performance or effects. Generally speaking, the emphasis in the music is on either communicating feelings of angst and hostility, or motivating a crowd to move with the beat -- ideally, both at once. However, guitar-playing in nu metal still often varies vastly in complexity, sound and usage. Bands take elements from several forms of music when composing the riffs for their guitars, causing a high variance between the bands. One common trait of most nu metal bands however, is to emphasize the guitar as a rhythmic instrument. Riffs often consist of only a few different notes or power chords played in rhythmic, syncopated patterns. To emphasize this rhythmic nature, nu metal guitarists generally make liberal use of palm muting, that is often widely spaced out and blend easily into the surrounding riffs.

    Another common technique with nu metal guitarists is the use of de-tuned strings whose lower pitch creates a thicker, more resonant sound. Strings 'de-tuned' in this way, are often drop-D or lower, sometimes adding a seventh string. Guitar solos are generally not part of nu metal songwriting, and when they do appear they are often short and uncomplex when compared to those of other metal genres. Some even consider these as more like melody lines for their short length.

    Bands such as Linkin Park, and Spineshank are two bands that may be considered to represent examples of many techniques common to nu metal. There are exceptions in the genre however, with some bands using few to none of these common traits, such as System of a Down and Korn.

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    Bass

    Reginald "Fieldy" Arvizu from KoЯnThe speed and skill of a bassist in traditional heavy metal plays a large part of outcome in the band's sound, complementing percussive tempos (and occasionally the guitar riffs) to add a strong rhythm to the tone.

    In nu metal, the bass is often the main focus of the music, acting often as the lead instrument, setting the bands other instruments as acting as rhythm. The nu metal bass is often slow and reminscent of hip hop or pop music, strutting a funky, loud sound that would arguably compete with the presence of the band's vocalist.

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    Drums
    Nu metal drumming usually consists of 4/4 beats, often believed to come from the genres hip-hop influence. These 4/4 beats are sometimes used as a sole drumming pattern, but some drummers often reach beyond traditional heavy metal patterns for more syncopated beats, such as Eastern dance rhythms, jazz drumming, and the complex breakbeats of hip-hop. One of the most important aspects of nu metal drumming, is that tempo rises above the estabilished midtempo range on chorus lines and bridges. This is an almost universal rule, with a relatively small number of bands, including Slipknot and System of a Down, being the rare exceptions. Also, many notable nu metal bands feature a DJ for additional rythmic instrumentation. Two of the more famous nu-metal DJs are DJ Lethal of Limp Bizkit and Joe Hahn of Linkin Park.

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    Vocals
    Nu metal bands often feature aggressive vocals that range from melodic singing akin to pop music and heavy metal styles, guttural screaming and shouting from various forms of metal music and metalcore types, and rapping.

    Some distinction is usually maintained between bands that use rapping vocals extensively, and those that don't. Bands featuring rap vocals are sometimes loosely called 'rap metal', while the less common term rapcore is term used by fans to depict bands that use a combination of singing, screaming, and/or rapping (for example, the vocals of Limp Bizkit, Linkin Park and P.O.D. , some Korn b-sides, and most songs by Papa Roach's early releases).
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    Usput, da Vam kažem nešto...
    Bio je koncert Blind Guardiana u bg, 16.10.2006 u SKC.
    Znate kako je bilo.......
    Time stands still..........
    To je bilo.... Vrhunsko! A o tom koncertu bilo je i na RTS! I nikakvi drogerasi,, ili ubice nisu pominjani... Samo vilenjaci i bardovi!
    Ljudi koncert je zapisan u mojoj glavi dok sam živ... I pričaću i djeci i unucima! Moram! To je jeza koja teče krvnim žilama kad krenu da sviraju, to je nekontrolisana pozitivna energija koja klizi iz hiljadu duša koje su se okupile da daju počast bardovima.
    A Blind Guardian na kraju turneje kaže - the best audience on 7 weeks tour was in Belgrade!
    Nek Bardovi vječno pjevaju!
    " Damn the cargo, we'll be on our way tonight "

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    he, ja iste noci u skcu bio na certu the dirtrucks. ne bik menjao tri superzgodne pohotne japanke za 25 kilovolti elfova, orcova, undeadova...
    What, no signature? No funny line? No catchy song lyric? F*ck you.

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    Kako li ti nađe drugi ulaz te noći u skc ? Jedva ja nađo ovaj jedan, jer su sve zbili oko tih jednih vrata pa ih ne vidiš. Nego, što bi pa ovo mjesto zamrlo..... Svi metalisteri uzeli godišnji odmor na pomen slipknota i šta ti ja već znam koga.... Ko da su se ovdje utrkivali ko sluša naj metal band. Uf, naša posla......
    " Damn the cargo, we'll be on our way tonight "

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    Ono sto je divno je da SKC POSTAJE BALKANSKA TRADICIJA...kreator stila, organizator, i zastitni znak onog evropskog Beograda, koji e uvjek ostati u mojoj dusi kao mjesto koje je jedno 20 godina bilo zapazena svjetska kulturna tacka (od 1071-od I Festa i Bitefa, koncerta Status Quo, Brian Auger & Oblivion Expres itd.-pa do 1991.g, OD KADA SVE PRESTAJE, PA SVE DO PROSLE GODINE 2006...15.tuznih godina..j***em ti zivot!!!!!)
    "Svoj posa i svi na radne zadatke...i vrijeme je posle par stotina godina da pocnemo sa malo rada"

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    Metallica i Alogia zakon za sve...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Bone View Post
    Ono sto je divno je da SKC POSTAJE BALKANSKA TRADICIJA...kreator stila, organizator, i zastitni znak onog evropskog Beograda, koji e uvjek ostati u mojoj dusi kao mjesto koje je jedno 20 godina bilo zapazena svjetska kulturna tacka (od 1071-od I Festa i Bitefa, koncerta Status Quo, Brian Auger & Oblivion Expres itd.-pa do 1991.g, OD KADA SVE PRESTAJE, PA SVE DO PROSLE GODINE 2006...15.tuznih godina..j***em ti zivot!!!!!)
    Ja samo ne znam kome da dam predlog da se taj SKC proširi... Jer, izgleda da njegovo vrijeme tek dolazi..... Mislim na reinkarnaciju onog što si pričao.
    Milo mi je da je napokon živnulo, nije mi milo jer svaki put kad se zaputim, krkljanac je, a ja sam sve matoriji.....
    " Damn the cargo, we'll be on our way tonight "

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    Quote Originally Posted by Njivice_Orano_Nepreorano View Post
    Ja samo ne znam kome da dam predlog da se taj SKC proširi... Jer, izgleda da njegovo vrijeme tek dolazi..... Mislim na reinkarnaciju onog što si pričao.
    Milo mi je da je napokon živnulo, nije mi milo jer svaki put kad se zaputim, krkljanac je, a ja sam sve matoriji.....
    Uloguj se na Wikipediju, na Blind Gardian da nadjes kako im je karta s koncerta u SKC u prezentaciji (infomaciji...whatever)...i to kakva karta (estetski).http:////en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blind_Guardian
    "Svoj posa i svi na radne zadatke...i vrijeme je posle par stotina godina da pocnemo sa malo rada"

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    jedna od boljih stvari koje je skc iznjedrio je časopis pop kult koji izlazi jednom mjesečno,koji je jedno vrijeme bio zabranjivan zbog eksplicitnijeg sadržaja.i mislim da je zagrebački kset trenutno ispred skc-a.

    Metallica i Alogia zakon za sve...
    park is not dead!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Bone View Post
    Uloguj se na Wikipediju, na Blind Gardian da nadjes kako im je karta s koncerta u SKC u prezentaciji (infomaciji...whatever)...i to kakva karta (estetski).http:////en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blind_Guardian
    Tu kartu ( 16.10.2006 ) cekam da uokvirim. Vrhunski koncert. Ali, bice jos jedan koncert! Jupiiiiiii.
    " Damn the cargo, we'll be on our way tonight "

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    Quote Originally Posted by Njivice_Orano_Nepreorano View Post
    Tu kartu ( 16.10.2006 ) cekam da uokvirim. Vrhunski koncert. Ali, bice jos jedan koncert! Jupiiiiiii.
    Mozda podjemo zajedno...ja bih sa mojim klincem...da uci pravu muziku i da *prelomi* (jer jake se ove Cece i Pink).
    Pozdrav to metal bro.&sis.
    "Svoj posa i svi na radne zadatke...i vrijeme je posle par stotina godina da pocnemo sa malo rada"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koma[MFHN] View Post
    Metallica i Alogia zakon za sve...
    Hm, Alogia je odlicna. Kakv im je album 'price o vremenu' na engleskom? Vidim na sajtu da im je tracklisting (valjda) isti.
    I usput, jeli njihova stvar 'Secanje na slike iz sna' obrada neke stare domace stvari? Namrtvo mi je zvucala poznato kada sam je prvi put slusao.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Bone View Post
    Mozda podjemo zajedno...ja bih sa mojim klincem...da uci pravu muziku i da *prelomi* (jer jake se ove Cece i Pink).
    Pozdrav to metal bro.&sis.
    Pa vidi, biće vrlo tijesno. Na ovom koncertu sto je bio, bilo je nekih blizu 1200 dusa ( tako kažu ) i to je bilo dosta ljudi iz Rep.Srpske, Zagreba, Bugarske, a za sledeći koncert se i slovenci najavljuju, bugari odusevljeni prethodnim najavljuju veću grupu, hrvati isto. A još ćemo morati i za kartu da se gazimo čim se pusti na prodaju. Dakle ko prvi đevojci, njegova đevojka. Za na ljeto je predviđen kapacitet do 2000 bardova. A mi ih kumili za neki veći prostor. Ima još do ljeta....
    " Damn the cargo, we'll be on our way tonight "

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    Hala sportva na Novom BG je bila ideaqlna za te koncerte....a IA NASA MORACA, ZALUDU...pa bi dosli i iz BG i iz R.Srpske
    "Svoj posa i svi na radne zadatke...i vrijeme je posle par stotina godina da pocnemo sa malo rada"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corey View Post
    E ljudi moji pa oce li ko mozda ikada pomenuti Nu metal????????????????????Hvatate se za te gluposti crnjacke uzmite malo opojne muzike Slipknot-a,Korna,SOAD-a,Linkina,Roacha..................
    Malo mi je nu metal presro, samo su korn, system i knot dobri bendovi
    Nick potiche iz doba Counter-a,
    Chisto da ne bi doshli do pogreshnog zakljuchka :P

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    Nu metal je najblaze receno bezvezan. Totalno odsustvo melodicnosti, likovi koji sviraju i pjevaju (!?) u tzv. bedu, cini mi se da se kao pravac kod nas poceo popularizovati negdje 2000. godine kroz MTV, a to najvise govori o kvalitetu istog. Sto se mene tice, kao da slusam dok neko shega drva... ili cijepa (opuchio me komshija danas, ima da ogluvim).
    'Atomik, o-o, atomik, ou tunajt'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cousteau View Post
    Nu metal je najblaze receno bezvezan. Totalno odsustvo melodicnosti, likovi koji sviraju i pjevaju (!?) u tzv. bedu, cini mi se da se kao pravac kod nas poceo popularizovati negdje 2000. godine kroz MTV, a to najvise govori o kvalitetu istog. Sto se mene tice, kao da slusam dok neko shega drva... ili cijepa (opuchio me komshija danas, ima da ogluvim).

    Nu metal cesto zvuci prilicno depresivno - bendovi poput KoRn ili LP u startu zvuce progresivno, mocno, a, nakon par slusanja, segacki, mracno, nevjeshto...
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    Hm, da! Kao fan metala, ni ja nisam mogao da se otem utisku, da se previse daleko otislo u komercijalizovanju bendova koji imaju previse agresivan nastup, gdje je evidentno odsutnost melodicnosti, o glasovima da ne pricam.... Ali mladi vole sve sto je dobro. A to dobro , mora da bude prisutno. Na zalost, cak i nekad dobri bendovi se ubise da bi opstali od tog udarca kom nu metala ( ili kako se vec zove ) pa ni albumi vise nisu tako so good. Ne znam recimo da li ste obratili paznju na Therion ? Mnogima je taj band smaracina, peglanje itd... Medjutim na mnogim albumima imaju numere ciji djelovi kad se jednom memorisu u glavu ne izlaze. Evo Blind Guardian recimo, krenuli su iz prasine, oblikovali se, sa Nightfall albumom su dostigli vrhunac koji malo ko moze da dohvati, da bi kasnije dva albuma bila na nivou prosjeka. Iron Maiden, recimo, da - to su oni matorci sto jos prase, ja sam mislio da su se pokopali sa albumom Virtual XI, pa onda onim Dance with Death, medjutim ovaj zadnji sto je izasao album je na nivou Brave new worlda ( slusljiv je.... )
    Mislim da cu jos uvijek ostati zakljucan u vrijeme metala koji je zivio. A sad, pa ostaje neki drugi metal koji se meni ne svidja.
    @kusto, sta mislis da je pustio draganu mirkovic ili tako nesto...... Ma ne znam ja sto bih uradio u tvojoj situaciji. Ipak sam spreman, vratio bih istom mjerom.... hihihihi
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    Nu metal.Glupost.Sto?E pa jbg,ja jos nisam cuo stvar koja je melodicna,brutalna i sa dobrim vokalom, a to mi je dovoljno da imam ovakvo misljenje o istom.
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    Meni se svidja nu metal, u stvari, svidja mi se bar ono sto pravi Linkin Park.. Jedino sto ne bih dao onom liku da se dere u mikrofon, stvarno kvari stvari.
    Tako da njihova kombinacija electronice, hip hop-a i rocka za mene radi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Njivice_Orano_Nepreorano View Post
    Evo Blind Guardian recimo, krenuli su iz prasine, oblikovali se, sa Nightfall albumom su dostigli vrhunac koji malo ko moze da dohvati, da bi kasnije dva albuma bila na nivou prosjeka. Iron Maiden, recimo, da - to su oni matorci sto jos prase, ja sam mislio da su se pokopali sa albumom Virtual XI, pa onda onim Dance with Death, medjutim ovaj zadnji sto je izasao album je na nivou Brave new worlda ( slusljiv je.... )
    @kusto, sta mislis da je pustio draganu mirkovic ili tako nesto...... Ma ne znam ja sto bih uradio u tvojoj situaciji. Ipak sam spreman, vratio bih istom mjerom.... hihihihi
    Nisu loši Maideni sad, mada me nije baš oduševio poslednji album, barem ovo što sam imao priliku da čujem, ako izuzmemo 2 pjesme. Za sad se držim Powerslave-a, kad mi dođe da ih čujem. A cijepanje drva i šeganje su sve aktuelniji ovih dana, kako je najavljeno da će biti restrikcija, a uz sve to najavili su i oprost dugova neplatišama, pa će posle sve to da se plati kroz 10 puta veću cijenu, dobro, ne 10, ali par puta veću sigurno... eto, dođoh do restrikcija preko nu metala. E, da, Maideni su postali nekako bučni u poslednje vrijeme, ali su i dalje u formi.

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    Ljudi, interesuje me gdje na Internetu da nadjem poslednji album Dream Theater-a, "OCTAVARIUM"? Preko file-share-a sam skinuo jednu pjesmu, ali se ispostavilo da nije prava. Ima li neki sajt poput rapidshare-a ili nesto slicno odakle bih mogao da skinem takav album odjednom?
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    Arrow Dream Theater - Octavarium

    Dream Theater - Octavarium

    Tracklist :
    1. Root Of All Evil
    2. Answer Lies Within
    3. These Walls
    4. I Walk Beside You
    5. Panic Attack
    6. Never Enough
    7. Sacrificed Sons
    8. Octavarium


    DL link :
    http://www.playinourbox.com/Photos/John/Dream_Theater/

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